[Silly Little Cars] 93' GO-4 REAR SHOCK

Thu Apr 3 18:11:42 PDT 2014

Mike,

Thanks! Will look forward to continued reply. Please note in the pix a
suspension bar just behind and below the bottom bracket. Also I have had
two different Mechanics (no knowledge of Go-4 but work on both Motorcycles
and cars,) tell me they can see no way that a spring could be or ever was
installed with this shock. I cannot make contact with anyone at Westward or
White Bear Sales so trying to find anyone with experience on this model
seems very doubtful. I have been holding back cutting for exactly the same
reason, I would like to understand first.

Bruce
brucemmoulton at gmail.com

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM, <bugnut at windstream.net> wrote:

>   Just a quick response.
> Take a look at some ATV rear setups.
> I would NOT start cutting and drilling just yet.
> Cause no matter the length of the shock, if the swingarm has enough travel
> it will bottom out that shock too.
> Be aware that the springs, spring cups and other hardware are sold (most
> of the time) separate from the shock.
> I'll take a good long look at the pix tomorrow and get back to you.
> I still think there should be a spring on that shock.
> The shock in the pix have the adjustment stop on it for the spring cup to
> sit on.
> More to come later,
> Mike
>
>  *From:* Bruce Moulton <brucemmoulton at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2014 7:12 PM
> *To:* Silly Little Email List<silly_little_cars at lists.sillylittlecars.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Silly Little Cars] 93' GO-4 REAR SHOCK
>
>  Mike et al,
>
> This is a 1993 Go-4 Model P-35 (the name "Interceptor" does not appear
> anywhere on the vehicle documents incl. a sales brochure.) I now have
> several places that seem to have a replacement for this apparently
> defective part that was discontinued (Shock #7041218-T3123.) But it  still
> begs the question what just replacing it would change since it would be
> completely depressed after install. Would seem more like a defective plan
> than a part. I have tried to send a Google Drive Doc with pictures. Images
> 0028 thru 0032 show the shock sitting inside the upper and lower
> installation brackets on the vehicle. The rest of the pix show the empty
> brackets from different angles plus a couple of shots of the shock. If you
> can't open them let me know and I'll figure another way to send.
>
> Please look at the bottom bracket. I have this idea that I can cut it down
> about 2 inches and drill a new hole lower. Then I can install a very nice
> heavy duty car shock that would not be compressed. Does that make sense or
> does anyone have a better idea?
>
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>
>  Bruce
> brucemmoulton at gmail.com
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:33 PM, <bugnut at windstream.net> wrote:
>
>>   Bruce,
>> What Model is your GO-4?
>> Not just the year, but the model too.  Ex: P-35, BT-57, etc...
>> The rear suspension setup your describing sound like that common on ATV's
>> or softtail Harleys.
>> A single shock centered on the swing arm back to the chassis. If that's
>> the case then there most likely should be a spring on it to stop the shock
>> from bottoming out (full compression).
>> Pictures would help to get you the answers you need.
>> Also, someone on here with the same model maybe willing to shed some
>> light on the subject and take some pix of their setup.
>> The shock could be the same, only your ride takes just one.
>> I'd like to know the answer to this on too. Always wanting to learn about
>> these things.
>> Later,
>> Mike
>>
>>  *From:* Bruce Moulton <brucemmoulton at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2014 1:39 PM
>>  *To:* Silly Little Email List<silly_little_cars at lists.sillylittlecars.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Silly Little Cars] 93' GO-4 REAR SHOCK
>>
>>   Thanks for the information. Is there a way I can search this list for
>> the mentioned email? I guess my confusion is around the springs? There is
>> no spring anywhere around this shock and if it has been removed I don't see
>> how it would be possible to put one on. This single shock is mounted
>> vertically, is inside the motor housing, is attached only to the frame and
>> motor housing, is centered on the vehicle, is not part of a pair, and seems
>> that it can only be mounted fully compressed and thus it remains fully
>> compressed after mounting (it was fully compressed when I removed it.)
>>
>> That is my second confusion: Why is it always fully compressed? I keep
>> thinking there is something wrong here but don't know what it is. Somehow I
>> think the shocks referred to aren't the same as this shock that is not part
>> of a pair.
>>
>>  Bruce
>> brucemmoulton at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:22 AM, <bugnut at windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>>>   Bruce,
>>> I was referring to the rear also.
>>> There was and e-mail from a member here that explained it.
>>> That's where I found out about the shocks. Found the number I ordered
>>> too ( Brand: WSM   Part # 60-321 )
>>> The different rated springs I found out about from local ATV repair
>>> shops. They are aftermarket for the ATV quys that want more or less
>>> stiffness in the rear for jumps or racing applications.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>  *From:* Bruce Moulton <brucemmoulton at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2014 2:07 AM
>>>  *To:* Silly Little Email List<silly_little_cars at lists.sillylittlecars.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Silly Little Cars] 93' GO-4 REAR SHOCK
>>>
>>>   Thanks for the replies. I'm not referring to the motorcycle shocks on
>>> the front wheel. This is a single small shock in the rear just behind the
>>> engine. It seems to be used to dampen the the engine movement some from the
>>> frame. In order to install inside the present clamps it must be completely
>>> compressed then bolted in the compressed state. I can't make sense out of
>>> why this would be be but I can't get a replacement shock as it is
>>> discontinued and nothing else fits in the clamps. Even if I could it just
>>> seems wrong to me. Why would a shock be mounted compressed?
>>>
>>>  Bruce
>>>   brucemmoulton at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:13 PM, <bugnut at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Bruce,
>>>> Does the 93 have springs over the shocks?
>>>> I know my 96 does.
>>>> The replacement shock for it, I believe, is the same as a Polaris
>>>> Sportsman 400L.
>>>> I think the springs are available in different stiffness and are the
>>>> same as the Polaris also.
>>>> Of course 2 are required for the Go-4's. Oh, the shocks are adjustable
>>>> too.
>>>> My 96 is leaning to the right, so I'm going to replace both, springs
>>>> maybe.
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Bruce Moulton <brucemmoulton at gmail.com>
>>>>  *Sent:* Wednesday, April 02, 2014 7:05 PM
>>>> *To:* silly_little_cars at lists.sillylittlecars.com
>>>>  *Subject:* [Silly Little Cars] 93' GO-4 REAR SHOCK
>>>>
>>>>  I noticed the rear shock in the engine compartment on my 93' was
>>>> fully compressed so I took it out to replace. Of course it is not made
>>>> anymore but in trying to figure it out the shock itself seems fine but is
>>>> fully compressed when on the vehicle no matter if it were new or not! It
>>>> would seem like it would not work or do anything if installed in compressed
>>>> state. Does anybody know why? What would happen if I cut the bottom clamp
>>>> down a bit, drilled a new hole, and installed a different shock than the
>>>> original that was not compressed after install?
>>>>
>>>> Bruce1804
>>>> brucemmoulton at gmail.com
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