<div dir="ltr">Mike,<div><br></div><div>Thanks! Will look forward to continued reply. Please note in the pix a suspension bar just behind and below the bottom bracket. Also I have had two different Mechanics (no knowledge of Go-4 but work on both Motorcycles and cars,) tell me they can see no way that a spring could be or ever was installed with this shock. I cannot make contact with anyone at Westward or White Bear Sales so trying to find anyone with experience on this model seems very doubtful. I have been holding back cutting for exactly the same reason, I would like to understand first.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:35 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bugnut@windstream.net" target="_blank">bugnut@windstream.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Just a quick response. </div>
<div>Take a look at some ATV rear setups.</div>
<div>I would NOT start cutting and drilling just yet.</div>
<div>Cause no matter the length of the shock, if the swingarm has enough travel
it will bottom out that shock too. </div>
<div>Be aware that the springs, spring cups and other hardware are sold (most of
the time) separate from the shock.</div>
<div>I’ll take a good long look at the pix tomorrow and get back to you.</div>
<div>I still think there should be a spring on that shock.</div>
<div>The shock in the pix have the adjustment stop on it for the spring cup to
sit on.</div>
<div>More to come later,</div>
<div>Mike </div>
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 03, 2014 7:12 PM</div><div><div class="h5">
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Silly Little Cars] 93' GO-4 REAR
SHOCK</div></div></div></div></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Mike et al,
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<div>This is a 1993 Go-4 Model P-35 (the name "Interceptor" does not appear
anywhere on the vehicle documents incl. a sales brochure.) I now have several
places that seem to have a replacement for this apparently defective part that
was discontinued (Shock #7041218-T3123.) But it still begs the question
what just replacing it would change since it would be completely depressed after
install. Would seem more like a defective plan than a part. I have tried to send
a Google Drive Doc with pictures. Images 0028 thru 0032 show the shock sitting
inside the upper and lower installation brackets on the vehicle. The rest of the
pix show the empty brackets from different angles plus a couple of shots of the
shock. If you can't open them let me know and I'll figure another way to send.
<div> </div>Please look at the bottom bracket. I have this idea that I can
cut it down about 2 inches and drill a new hole lower. Then I can install a very
nice heavy duty car shock that would not be compressed. Does that make sense or
does anyone have a better idea?
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:33 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bugnut@windstream.net" target="_blank">bugnut@windstream.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Bruce, </div>
<div>What Model is your GO-4?</div>
<div>Not just the year, but the model too. Ex: P-35, BT-57, etc...</div>
<div>The rear suspension setup your describing sound like that common on ATV’s
or softtail Harleys.</div>
<div>A single shock centered on the swing arm back to the chassis. If that’s
the case then there most likely should be a spring on it to stop the shock
from bottoming out (full compression).</div>
<div>Pictures would help to get you the answers you need.</div>
<div>Also, someone on here with the same model maybe willing to shed some
light on the subject and take some pix of their setup.</div>
<div>The shock could be the same, only your ride takes just one.</div>
<div>I’d like to know the answer to this on too. Always wanting to learn about
these things.</div>
<div>Later,</div>
<div>Mike</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="brucemmoulton@gmail.com" href="mailto:brucemmoulton@gmail.com" target="_blank">Bruce Moulton</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 03, 2014 1:39 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Silly Little Cars] 93' GO-4 REAR
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the information. Is there a way I can search this list
for the mentioned email? I guess my confusion is around the springs? There is
no spring anywhere around this shock and if it has been removed I don't see
how it would be possible to put one on. This single shock is mounted
vertically, is inside the motor housing, is attached only to the frame and
motor housing, is centered on the vehicle, is not part of a pair, and seems
that it can only be mounted fully compressed and thus it remains fully
compressed after mounting (it was fully compressed when I removed it.)
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<div>That is my second confusion: Why is it always fully compressed? I keep
thinking there is something wrong here but don't know what it is. Somehow I
think the shocks referred to aren't the same as this shock that is not part of
a pair.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:22 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bugnut@windstream.net" target="_blank">bugnut@windstream.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Bruce,</div>
<div>I was referring to the rear also.</div>
<div>There was and e-mail from a member here that explained it.</div>
<div>That’s where I found out about the shocks. Found the number I ordered
too ( Brand: WSM Part # 60-321 )</div>
<div>The different rated springs I found out about from local ATV repair
shops. They are aftermarket for the ATV quys that want more or less
stiffness in the rear for jumps or racing applications.</div>
<div>Hope this helps,</div>
<div>Mike</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the replies. I'm not referring to the motorcycle
shocks on the front wheel. This is a single small shock in the rear just
behind the engine. It seems to be used to dampen the the engine movement
some from the frame. In order to install inside the present clamps it must
be completely compressed then bolted in the compressed state. I can't make
sense out of why this would be be but I can't get a replacement shock as it
is discontinued and nothing else fits in the clamps. Even if I could it just
seems wrong to me. Why would a shock be mounted compressed?
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:13 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bugnut@windstream.net" target="_blank">bugnut@windstream.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Bruce,</div>
<div>Does the 93 have springs over the shocks?</div>
<div>I know my 96 does.</div>
<div>The replacement shock for it, I believe, is the same as a Polaris
Sportsman 400L.</div>
<div>I think the springs are available in different stiffness and are the
same as the Polaris also.</div>
<div>Of course 2 are required for the Go-4’s. Oh, the shocks are
adjustable too.</div>
<div>My 96 is leaning to the right, so I’m going to replace both, springs
maybe.</div>
<div>Hope this helps,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I noticed the rear shock in the engine compartment on my 93'
was fully compressed so I took it out to replace. Of course it is not made
anymore but in trying to figure it out the shock itself seems fine but is
fully compressed when on the vehicle no matter if it were new or not! It
would seem like it would not work or do anything if installed in
compressed state. Does anybody know why? What would happen if I cut the
bottom clamp down a bit, drilled a new hole, and installed a different
shock than the original that was not compressed after install?<br clear="all">
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