[Silly Little Cars] Silly_little_cars Digest, Vol 85, Issue 24
Eric Kahn
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Mon Jul 28 17:50:19 PDT 2014
my 2000 still has the ford drivetrain
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> Andrew,
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> That is good to know.
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> Thank you,
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> Peter
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> There is a known issue with the trunnion plates of the GO-4 Interceptor III. Occasional cracking has been evidenced in the bend area of trunnion plates. The trunnion plates are the structure that attaches the front wheel to the primary steel tube structure of the vehicle.
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> The bend area of the trunnion plates should be inspected by owners of this model. The recommended repair when cracks are identified is a welding repair and installation of a reinforcement kit. I was able to order the kit for $132.00 plus shipping.
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> Attached to this email is the information about the kit, and instructions for its installation.
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> Hello,
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> The sillylittlecar lineup at the top of the web site page is brilliant. l
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> I'm new to the group, but not to little cars. I've been a member of the Microcar Mini car club for years. I don't have one. Most are trailer queens that don't see much use.
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> Oddly enough, I've never seen a metermaid vehicle at any meet.
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> Is there any wisdom about which GO-4 model might be better than the others? Someone said that the 4 cylinder Hyundai motor in the 04 was not imported into the US. The '96 used a 1.3 liter Ford. From which car? Are parts available? Are some models more problematic than others?
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> Where did the transaxle come from. Is it a car unit? Which one? Did it change with the engine?
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> Is there a tech section to the web site? Common maintenance issues that are unique to the GO-4? Removing the governor? Model explanations?
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> I ordered the maintenance/parts manual CD on eBay.
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> Peter C. King
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>> Is there any wisdom about which GO-4 model might be better than the others?
> IMHO, Ford (mazda) powered, 95-99 or so go4.
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>> Someone said that the 4 cylinder Hyundai motor in the 04 was not imported into the US. The '96 used a 1.3 liter Ford. From which car?
> The '96 should have a Ford Aspire drivetrain. I think all Hyundai powered are 1.0L 3 cylinders and all go4s are automatic.
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>> Are parts available?
> Yes, for the Ford/mazda.
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>> Are some models more problematic than others?
> Not sure.
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>> Where did the transaxle come from.
> Ford Festiva/aspire
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>> Is it a car unit?
> Yes.
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>> Which one?
> jatco 3 speed
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>> Did it change with the engine?
> Not sure what comes with the hyundai.
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>> Is there a tech section to the web site?
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>> Common maintenance issues that are unique to the GO-4?
> Crude parking brake on 93 and older. Poor airflow to radiator for engine and transaxle cooling. Lack of instrumentation to know what is going on.
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>> Removing the governor?
> It's electronic with a special speed sensor in the transaxle, replacing the cable driven setup on festivas/aspires.
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>> Model explanations?
> The following may not be entirely accurate
> 90-93, Ford Festiva (Kia body) automatic (jatco 3 speed) and 1.3L 4 cylinder (mazda sohc). Single torsion arm rear suspension with centered coilover.
> 94-98, Ford Aspire (Kia body)automatic (jatco 3 speed) and 1.3L 4 cylinder (mazda sohc). Independent rear suspension with coilovers.
> 99-present, Hyundai automatic and 1.0L 3 cylinder. (not shared with any US import vehicle)
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> Up to about 94, they used acrylic sliding side windows in one-piece doors and the model is a P35.
> Newer generally have fixed tempered glass side windows with two-piece doors, allowing the window to slide back separately. The models are interceptor I, II, III.
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> Steve
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> Steve,
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> That's a great start.
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> Thank you,
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> Peter
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>>
>>> Is there any wisdom about which GO-4 model might be better than the
>>> others?
>> IMHO, Ford (mazda) powered, 95-99 or so go4.
>>
>>> Someone said that the 4 cylinder Hyundai motor in the 04 was not imported
>>> into the US. The '96 used a 1.3 liter Ford. From which car?
>> The '96 should have a Ford Aspire drivetrain. I think all Hyundai powered
>> are 1.0L 3 cylinders and all go4s are automatic.
>>
>>> Are parts available?
>> Yes, for the Ford/mazda.
>>
>>> Are some models more problematic than others?
>> Not sure.
>>
>>> Where did the transaxle come from.
>> Ford Festiva/aspire
>>
>>> Is it a car unit?
>> Yes.
>>
>>> Which one?
>> jatco 3 speed
>>
>>> Did it change with the engine?
>> Not sure what comes with the hyundai.
>>
>>> Is there a tech section to the web site?
>>
>>> Common maintenance issues that are unique to the GO-4?
>> Crude parking brake on 93 and older. Poor airflow to radiator for engine
>> and transaxle cooling. Lack of instrumentation to know what is going on.
>>
>>> Removing the governor?
>> It's electronic with a special speed sensor in the transaxle, replacing
>> the cable driven setup on festivas/aspires.
>>
>>> Model explanations?
>> The following may not be entirely accurate
>> 90-93, Ford Festiva (Kia body) automatic (jatco 3 speed) and 1.3L 4
>> cylinder (mazda sohc). Single torsion arm rear suspension with centered
>> coilover.
>> 94-98, Ford Aspire (Kia body)automatic (jatco 3 speed) and 1.3L 4 cylinder
>> (mazda sohc). Independent rear suspension with coilovers.
>> 99-present, Hyundai automatic and 1.0L 3 cylinder. (not shared with any US
>> import vehicle)
>>
>> Up to about 94, they used acrylic sliding side windows in one-piece doors
>> and the model is a P35.
>> Newer generally have fixed tempered glass side windows with two-piece
>> doors, allowing the window to slide back separately. The models are
>> interceptor I, II, III.
>>
>>
>> Steve
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> Funny, My 04 has a 4cyl engine.
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> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, pcking <pc.king at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Steve,
>>
>> That's a great start.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Peter
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <miatav8 at earthlink.net>
>> To: <silly_little_cars at lists.sillylittlecars.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 4:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4
>> models(pcking)
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>>> Is there any wisdom about which GO-4 model might be better than the
>>>> others?
>>>>
>>> IMHO, Ford (mazda) powered, 95-99 or so go4.
>>>
>>> Someone said that the 4 cylinder Hyundai motor in the 04 was not
>>>> imported into the US. The '96 used a 1.3 liter Ford. From which car?
>>>>
>>> The '96 should have a Ford Aspire drivetrain. I think all Hyundai powered
>>> are 1.0L 3 cylinders and all go4s are automatic.
>>>
>>> Are parts available?
>>> Yes, for the Ford/mazda.
>>>
>>> Are some models more problematic than others?
>>> Not sure.
>>>
>>> Where did the transaxle come from.
>>> Ford Festiva/aspire
>>>
>>> Is it a car unit?
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> Which one?
>>> jatco 3 speed
>>>
>>> Did it change with the engine?
>>> Not sure what comes with the hyundai.
>>>
>>> Is there a tech section to the web site?
>>>
>>> Common maintenance issues that are unique to the GO-4?
>>> Crude parking brake on 93 and older. Poor airflow to radiator for engine
>>> and transaxle cooling. Lack of instrumentation to know what is going on.
>>>
>>> Removing the governor?
>>> It's electronic with a special speed sensor in the transaxle, replacing
>>> the cable driven setup on festivas/aspires.
>>>
>>> Model explanations?
>>> The following may not be entirely accurate
>>> 90-93, Ford Festiva (Kia body) automatic (jatco 3 speed) and 1.3L 4
>>> cylinder (mazda sohc). Single torsion arm rear suspension with centered
>>> coilover.
>>> 94-98, Ford Aspire (Kia body)automatic (jatco 3 speed) and 1.3L 4
>>> cylinder (mazda sohc). Independent rear suspension with coilovers.
>>> 99-present, Hyundai automatic and 1.0L 3 cylinder. (not shared with any
>>> US import vehicle)
>>>
>>> Up to about 94, they used acrylic sliding side windows in one-piece doors
>>> and the model is a P35.
>>> Newer generally have fixed tempered glass side windows with two-piece
>>> doors, allowing the window to slide back separately. The models are
>>> interceptor I, II, III.
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
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