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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28271">Hello,</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28310">I’ve got at 2004 and I get all my parts from:</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28309"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="http://www.fourgreen.com/store/Scripts/default.asp" target="_blank" href="http://www.fourgreen.com/store/Scripts/default.asp" title-off="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28308">http://www.fourgreen.com/store/Scripts/default.asp</a></div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28276">On the right and side there is a search by part #.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28304">I’ve never had a problem get gasket sets, rebuild kits or just common
parts.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28306">Every good prices, fast shipping and genuine Hyundai/Kia parts. </div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28470">The I3 I think is the replacement for the Atoz/Atos.</div>
<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28431">Hope this helps.</div>
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<div style="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28473"><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com" ymailto="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com" title-off="" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28472">Sigmaz via
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28434"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 08, 2015 1:17 PM</div>
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<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_28476"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Silly Little Cars] Transmission
Woes.</div></div></div></div>
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<div id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_4359">Thanks for the link Larry.</span></div>
<div id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_3582">The problem is that the cooler module on the
transmission IS the cooler. </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_4742">It doesn't route hot  ATF to the 
radiator and cooler ATF back to the transmission.. The little module is an 
actual heat exchanger mounted right onto the transmission housing. </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_4755">I assume they normally dont go bad, but it
happens as I may have learned.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_3209">My assumption is that this issue is an old
one and somewhere down the like the P/O tried to band aid it.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_3578">There is a secondary radiator and fan in my
08' mounted in the front of the rig under the hood .. </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_3579">After examining the routing of the hoses it
looks like the cabin heater is first in line before everyone on that circuit.
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_3580">If it's always been this way I'm not sure but
then it goes from the heater core to the secondary radiator then to the trans
cooler... so the transmission appears to have plenty of cooling as far as water
temp goes.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_3581">The heat exchanger on the transmission is
Hyundai/KIA part # 4610002700 but the parts aren't available through Hyundai or
KIA because the dealers don't have access to non US parts lookup.</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_4355">FYI the transmission is a JATCO
JF405E.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_4356">Master overhaul kits are available through
Cobra transmission for about $375 but the cooler is unobtainable.</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_3878">Theoretically I could go with an external
cooler configuration but I'd have to machine a custom block off plate with ports
to take the fluid out and back. </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_4086">I don't see any ATF in the coolant and I
haven't had the cooler out yet to pressure test it. I'm hoping the contamination
is caused by ingress via filler tube. that way at least the clutch material
adhesive won't be attacked by ethylene glycol. But if in fact the contamination
happened during my trip and hasn't been lingering I may have caught it quick
enough to flush it out with minimal damage. but I still need to test the cooler.
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_2928"><span id="yiv7743523584yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_4300">So I'm still putting a request out there for
a replacement cooler or if anyone has a spare transmission lying about I'd like
to see what you'd sell it for. Remember this is an '08 I3 and it has the 4cyl
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