<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12367" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12423">I feel ya Vincent., I really do.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12367"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12367" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12454">I only wish there was a real forum to use then all this stuff could be organized properly.. I admin <a href="http://www.subaru360club.org/" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12451">www.subaru360club.org</a>/ and being forced to use this archaic mail service is a real drag, but I guess at least it's something...</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12367" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12367" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12521">I hope you get your request fulfilled.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12367" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12367" dir="ltr"><span>Until, then sorry about all my posts.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12367" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12367" dir="ltr"><span>-jon</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12364"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12363"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12362"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12374"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12369"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Vincent D'Orio <vince.dorio@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Sigmaz <sigmaz_1@yahoo.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 8, 2015 1:20 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Silly Little Cars] Transmission Woes.<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12365"><br><div id="yiv2063331471"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12372"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12371">Seriously please please please UNSUBSCRIBE<br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv2063331471gmail_quote" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12533">On Sep 8, 2015 12:17 PM, "Sigmaz via Silly_little_cars" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2063331471gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12538"><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv2063331471yqt5775228915" id="yiv2063331471yqt45328"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12537"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12536"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12535"><span>Thanks for the link Larry.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12540"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12542"><span>The problem is that the cooler module on the transmission IS the cooler. </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12545"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12544">It doesn't route hot ATF to the radiator and cooler ATF back to the transmission.. The little module is an actual heat exchanger mounted right onto the transmission housing. </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12549"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12557">I assume they normally dont go bad, but it happens as I may have learned.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12547"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>My assumption is that this issue is an old one and somewhere down the like the P/O tried to band aid it.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>There is a secondary radiator and fan in my 08' mounted in the front of the rig under the hood .. </span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>After examining the routing of the hoses it looks like the cabin heater is first in line before everyone on that circuit. </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12560"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12559">If it's always been this way I'm not sure but then it goes from the heater core to the secondary radiator then to the trans cooler... so the transmission appears to have plenty of cooling as far as water temp goes.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>The heat exchanger on the transmission is Hyundai/KIA part # 4610002700 but the parts aren't available through Hyundai or KIA because the dealers don't have access to non US parts lookup.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12562"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12565"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12564">Here is a site showing the module in some detail. </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://akpp.com.ua/%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA-jf402e">Теплообменник АКПП JF402E JF405E 99-up 4610002700 96567484</a></div><div style="width:450px;font-family:'Georgia', 'Times', 'Times New Roman', 'serif';margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;background-color:#ffffff;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12574"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" style="width:450px;height:170px;display:block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12573"><tbody id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12572"><tr><td colspan="8" rowspan="1" style="height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="min-height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;line-height:0px;"> </div></td></tr><tr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12571"><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" style="width:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1pt;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="width:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1pt;"> </div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="5" style="vertical-align:middle;width:168px;height:168px;background-color:#000000;border-collapse:collapse;" 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href="http://akpp.com.ua/%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA-jf402e" style="text-decoration:none!important;text-decoration:none;color:#000000!important;line-height:100%;font-size:18px;display:block;"><span style="margin:0;font-weight:normal;margin-bottom:3px;font-size:18px;line-height:21px;max-height:43px;color:#000000;overflow:hidden!important;display:inline-block;">Теплообменник АКПП JF402E JF405E 99-up 461000...</span></a><div style="font-size:13px;line-height:20px;color:#999999;max-height:81px;font-family:'Georgia', 'Times', 'Times New Roman', 'serif';overflow:hidden;">теплообменник Kia Picanto Daewoo Matiz киа пиканто део матиз</div></div></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="height:4px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="min-height:4px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:4pt;"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="vertical-align:middle;font-family:'Arial', 'Helvetica Neue', 'Helvetica', 'sans-serif';"><div style="font-size:0pt;"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://akpp.com.ua/%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA-jf402e" style="color:black;text-decoration:none!important;text-decoration:none;"><span style="display:inline-block;line-height:11px;max-width:145px;min-width:85px;overflow:hidden;max-height:13px;"><span style="vertical-align:middle;font-size:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999;">View on <span style="font-weight:bold;">akpp.com.ua</span></span></span></a></div></td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" style="vertical-align:middle;width:100px;font-family:'Arial', 'Helvetica Neue', 'Helvetica', 'sans-serif';"><div style="max-width:100px;min-width:80px;overflow:hidden;text-align:right;line-height:11px;max-height:13px;font-size:0pt;"><span style="vertical-align:middle;font-size:9px;line-height:11px;color:#999999;">Preview by Yahoo</span></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" rowspan="1" style="height:9px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:0pt;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="min-height:9px;background-color:#ffffff;font-size:9pt;"></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan="8" rowspan="1" style="height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;border-collapse:collapse;"><div style="min-height:1px;background-color:#e5e5e5;font-size:1px;line-height:0px;"> </div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>FYI the transmission is a JATCO JF405E.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12591"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12590">Master overhaul kits are available through Cobra transmission for about $375 but the cooler is unobtainable.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12594"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12593">Theoretically I could go with an external cooler configuration but I'd have to machine a custom block off plate with ports to take the fluid out and back. </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12597"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12596">I don't see any ATF in the coolant and I haven't had the cooler out yet to pressure test it. I'm hoping the contamination is caused by ingress via filler tube. that way at least the clutch material adhesive won't be attacked by ethylene glycol. But if in fact the contamination happened during my trip and hasn't been lingering I may have caught it quick enough to flush it out with minimal damage. but I still need to test the cooler. </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12599"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12602"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1441731349526_12601">So I'm still putting a request out there for a replacement cooler or if anyone has a spare transmission lying about I'd like to see what you'd sell it for. Remember this is an '08 I3 and it has the 4cyl Hyundai engine </span></div><div dir="ltr"><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>Thanks!</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>jon</span></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> </div><div><div><div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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