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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>True, but it usually takes a certain volume or lbs. / # of cans of R134 to fill. Thanks. BTW, found the GO4 shop manual that someone has published online as a pdf. (with a section on AC).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>SC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Silly_little_cars [mailto:silly_little_cars-bounces@lists.sillylittlecars.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>pcking<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> Silly Little Email List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Silly Little Cars] Silly_little_cars Digest, Vol 85, Issue 27<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Steve,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The AC system is based on pressure, not volume. Keep pumping it in until the needle is in the green arc on the gauge. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Peter<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:jew1958@gmail.com" title="jew1958@gmail.com">J W</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com" title="silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">Silly Little Email List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:10 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [Silly Little Cars] Silly_little_cars Digest, Vol 85, Issue 27<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>" <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><h3><a href="mailto:miatav8@earthlink.net">miatav8@earthlink.net</a> <o:p></o:p></h3></td></tr></table></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>6:30 PM (34 minutes ago) <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif"><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></td><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'></td><td rowspan=2 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1026" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif"><o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=":h8"><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1027" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif"><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr><tr><td colspan=3 style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>to silly_little_c. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 id="_x003a_h7" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/images/cleardot.gif"><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table></td></tr></table><div id=":7l"><div id=":7k"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p><span style='background:fuchsia'>No reason to be embarrassed, JW. There is no such thing as a stupid question.<br>Funny you don't remember asking it.<br><br>Steve"</span><o:p></o:p></p><p>You must have never taught High school students.<o:p></o:p></p><p>when I asked the question ,I knew the answer and was being sarcastic, should have used the green font, I guess. JW<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM, sbc <<a href="mailto:sbc2023@gmail.com" target="_blank">sbc2023@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sorry to butt in here rather than start a new conversation, but does anyone<br>have the specs. (capacity - ounces of R134 for full charge) for the stock<br>A/C system in a 2004 Interceptor II with Hyundai parts? I know it's a<br>longshot because most of you guys are on the West Coast and don't need an<br>a/c, but it's a life saver here in San Antonio.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Steve<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Silly_little_cars<br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars-bounces@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars-bounces@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a>] On Behalf Of<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:miatav8@earthlink.net">miatav8@earthlink.net</a><br>Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:30 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] Silly_little_cars Digest, Vol 85, Issue 27<br><br><br><br>No reason to be embarrassed, JW. There is no such thing as a stupid<br>question.<br>Funny you don't remember asking it.<br><br>Steve<br><br><br><br>>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>><br>>Message: 1<br>>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:55:31 -0500<br>>From: J W <<a href="mailto:jew1958@gmail.com">jew1958@gmail.com</a>><br>>To: <a href="mailto:miatav8@earthlink.net">miatav8@earthlink.net</a>, Silly Little Email List<br>> <<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a>><br>>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4<br>>Message-ID:<br>> <CA+L2O=<a href="mailto:93h4ZZRjtShtyTwDp5KiTTra_Z69T8mmE6WNi05uFJVw@mail.gmail.com">93h4ZZRjtShtyTwDp5KiTTra_Z69T8mmE6WNi05uFJVw@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>><br>>Well actually JW didn't ever think they put Geo engines in any go-4,<br>>and couldn't think why that it was thrown out there in the first place.<br>><br>> JW<br>><br>><br>>On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 1:52 PM, <<a href="mailto:miatav8@earthlink.net">miatav8@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br>><br>>> Good to know, Eric. So now we know at least up through 2000 for the Ford.<br>>><br>>> JW seems to think they put Geo Metro motors in too.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Steve<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Silly Little Cars Email List<br>>> <a href="mailto:sillylittlecars@sillylittlecars.com">sillylittlecars@sillylittlecars.com</a><br>>><br>>> <a href="http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/listinfo.cgi/silly_little_cars-silly" target="_blank">http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/listinfo.cgi/silly_little_cars-silly</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>>> <a href="http://littlecars.com" target="_blank">littlecars.com</a> To unsubscribe, click that link above.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>>><br>>><br>>><br>>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was<br>>scrubbed...<br>>URL:<br>><<a href="http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/pipermail/silly_little_cars-sillylitt" target="_blank">http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/pipermail/silly_little_cars-sillylitt</a><br>><a href="http://lecars.com/attachments/20140729/2916d510/attachment.html" target="_blank">lecars.com/attachments/20140729/2916d510/attachment.html</a>><br>><br>>------------------------------<br>><br>>Message: 2<br>>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 19:56:56 +0000<br>>From: Rich Hyde <<a href="mailto:rhyde@ezmicro.com">rhyde@ezmicro.com</a>><br>>To: Silly Little Email List<br>> <<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a>><br>>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4<br>>Message-ID:<br>> <<a href="mailto:7591185DB88C5E439D36854A2FBA4943DA4249@MERCURY.ezmicro.local">7591185DB88C5E439D36854A2FBA4943DA4249@MERCURY.ezmicro.local</a>><br>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>><br>>If the Go4's would have the regular ignition systems in them I think they'd<br>do wheelies without a problem. That could lead to a new set of issues<br>though beginning with a roof repair!<br>><br>>From: Silly_little_cars<br>>[mailto:<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars-bounces@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars-bounces@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a>] On Behalf<br>>Of <a href="mailto:goaliefergy1@aol.com">goaliefergy1@aol.com</a><br>>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:54 PM<br>>To: <a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a><br>>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4<br>><br>>My '97 no longer starts and checked the codes from the diagnostic port and<br>says crank position sensor. Since that means a new distributor, once<br>replaced I'll have to reset the timing. Guess I'll have to play around with<br>it. lol. I'm not sure what mine is set at now, but it's pretty spirited as<br>is if I put my foot down! I did put Redline D4 fluid in my transmission, so<br>don't know if that cleaned up the valves in the transmission a bit for<br>better transmission response maybe?<br>><br>><br>><br>>-----Original Message-----<br>>From: Rich Hyde <<a href="mailto:rhyde@ezmicro.com">rhyde@ezmicro.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rhyde@ezmicro.com">rhyde@ezmicro.com</a>>><br>>To: Silly Little Email List<br>><<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@l">silly_little_cars@l</a><br>><a href="http://ists.sillylittlecars.com" target="_blank">ists.sillylittlecars.com</a>>><br>>Sent: Tue, Jul 29, 2014 12:47 pm<br>>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4 Has<br>>anyone ever changed the ignition/timing in their Ford/Mazda engine to<br>reflect what was put in one of the cars. I like not having a governor but<br>it would be nice to have the responsiveness that a car has when I hit the<br>gas!<br>><br>>From: Silly_little_cars<br>>[mailto:<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars-bounces@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars-bounces@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:sill">sill</a><br>><a href="mailto:y_little_cars-bounces@lists.sillylittlecars.com">y_little_cars-bounces@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a>?>] On Behalf Of<br>><a href="mailto:goaliefergy1@aol.com">goaliefergy1@aol.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:goaliefergy1@aol.com">goaliefergy1@aol.com</a>><br>>Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:06 PM<br>>To: <a href="mailto:miatav8@earthlink.net">miatav8@earthlink.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:miatav8@earthlink.net">miatav8@earthlink.net</a>>;<br>><a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@li">silly_little_cars@li</a><br>><a href="http://sts.sillylittlecars.com" target="_blank">sts.sillylittlecars.com</a>><br>>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4<br>><br>>Yeah 2001 was the change over to Hyundai powertrain. I don't believe<br>there's ever been Geo/Suzuki 3 cylinder motors. I know the early models of<br>Hyundai had a 1.0 4 cylinder, but now the newest come with the Hyundai 1.0l<br>3 cylinder. Does anyone know which year they changed from the 4 to 3?<br>><br>>In regards to the Ford/Mazda/Kia motors, feasibly any mazda B3 or B6 model<br>engine should be able to mount up (wiring and computers are a different<br>story). I've always wanted to drop in a 1.6l Turbo motor in mine.... Perk of<br>the Ford Go-4's is the individual universal type gauges used!<br>><br>>In regards to the Hyundai/Kia 3 cylinder motors, I'm not sure what model<br>transmission they use (it is a 4 speed automatic). If the transmission would<br>accept it, would be pretty sweet (if you could find one) to put in a Ford<br>Eco-Boost 1.0l cylinder crate motor (it's a Hyundai based motor). I would<br>think you'd have to do a whole new wire harness and instrument cluster<br>though IF it were able to bolt up to the transmission.<br>><br>>-----Original Message-----<br>>From: miatav8 <<a href="mailto:miatav8@earthlink.net">miatav8@earthlink.net</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:miatav8@earthlink.net">miatav8@earthlink.net</a>>><br>>To: silly_little_cars<br>><<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@l">silly_little_cars@l</a><br>><a href="http://ists.sillylittlecars.com" target="_blank">ists.sillylittlecars.com</a>>><br>>Sent: Tue, Jul 29, 2014 11:52 am<br>>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4<br>><br>>Good to know, Eric. So now we know at least up through 2000 for the Ford.<br>><br>><br>><br>>JW seems to think they put Geo Metro motors in too.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>Steve<br>><br>>_______________________________________________<br>><br>>Silly Little Cars Email List<br>><br>><a href="mailto:sillylittlecars@sillylittlecars.com">sillylittlecars@sillylittlecars.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:sillylittlecars@sillylittlec">sillylittlecars@sillylittlec</a><br>><a href="http://ars.com" target="_blank">ars.com</a>><br>><br>><a href="http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/listinfo.cgi/silly_little_cars-sillyli" target="_blank">http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/listinfo.cgi/silly_little_cars-sillyli</a><br>><a href="http://ttlecars.com" target="_blank">ttlecars.com</a><br>><br>>To unsubscribe, click that link above.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>_______________________________________________<br>><br>>Silly Little Cars Email List<br>><br>><a href="mailto:sillylittlecars@sillylittlecars.com">sillylittlecars@sillylittlecars.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:sillylittlecars@sillylittlec">sillylittlecars@sillylittlec</a><br>><a href="http://ars.com" target="_blank">ars.com</a>><br>><br>><a href="http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/listinfo.cgi/silly_little_cars-sillyli" target="_blank">http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/listinfo.cgi/silly_little_cars-sillyli</a><br>><a href="http://ttlecars.com" target="_blank">ttlecars.com</a><br>><br>>To unsubscribe, click that link above.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was<br>>scrubbed...<br>>URL:<br>><<a href="http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/pipermail/silly_little_cars-sillylitt" target="_blank">http://lists.sillylittlecars.com/pipermail/silly_little_cars-sillylitt</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>><a href="http://lecars.com/attachments/20140729/77b9b212/attachment-0001.htm" target="_blank">lecars.com/attachments/20140729/77b9b212/attachment-0001.htm</a>><br>><br>>------------------------------<br>><br>>Message: 3<br>>Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:11:11 -0400 (GMT-04:00)<br>>From: <<a href="mailto:miatav8@earthlink.net">miatav8@earthlink.net</a>><br>>To: <a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a><br>>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4 (Rich<br>> Hyde)<br>>Message-ID:<br>><br>><<a href="mailto:27577370.1406740271738.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net">27577370.1406740271738.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net</a>><br>><br>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br>><br>><br>>Rich,<br>>the timing should be set the same as the Aspire. The responsiveness should<br>be better than an aspire due the lower curb weight, but that isn't saying<br>much.<br>><br>>The aspire and festiva distributor assemblies sold as "rebuilt" or<br>"remanufactured" are junkyard assemblies that have been tested and cleaned<br>up. I've seen these priced around $350 from an auto parts store; $35 from a<br>salvage yard. I carry a used spare I tested on the car when I bought it,<br>along with a wrench to replace it in case it ever goes out enroute. This is<br>one of those items that usually gives little or no warning before complete<br>failure.<br>><br>>>------------------------------<br>>><br>>>Message: 4<br>>>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 15:53:41 -0400 (EDT)<br>>>From: <a href="mailto:goaliefergy1@aol.com">goaliefergy1@aol.com</a><br>>>To: <a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a><br>>>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4<br>>>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:8D1797DEE315B49-F00-A313@webmail-d213.sysops.aol.com">8D1797DEE315B49-F00-A313@webmail-d213.sysops.aol.com</a>><br>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>>><br>>>My '97 no longer starts and checked the codes from the diagnostic port and<br>says crank position sensor. Since that means a new distributor, once<br>replaced I'll have to reset the timing. Guess I'll have to play around with<br>it. lol. I'm not sure what mine is set at now, but it's pretty spirited as<br>is if I put my foot down! I did put Redline D4 fluid in my transmission, so<br>don't know if that cleaned up the valves in the transmission a bit for<br>better transmission response maybe?<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>-----Original Message-----<br>>>From: Rich Hyde <<a href="mailto:rhyde@ezmicro.com">rhyde@ezmicro.com</a>><br>>>To: Silly Little Email List<br>>><<a href="mailto:silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com">silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com</a>><br>>>Sent: Tue, Jul 29, 2014 12:47 pm<br>>>Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] conventional wisdom about GO-4<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>Has anyone ever changed the ignition/timing in their Ford/Mazda engine to<br>reflect what was put in one of the cars. 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