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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Alec,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm in NC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The inspector even printed out the statue, stapled
his card to it and said "Carry this with you and when, not if, you get stopped ,
show it to the officer. Tell him to call me if he/she has any
questions."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have several copies that stay in
my GO-4s.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I too have another GO-4 that always been listed as
a motorcycle. My other 2 are "Mailster" type and are both listed as trucks but
they are considered "Horseless Carriages" due to thier age and don't even
have to be inspected, just tagged. Funny part is they all showed up under my
name, as they should have, which only helped.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As you called them, the all mystical beings at
DMV headquarters figured "hell he owns four or five of these strange
things, maybe he does know what he's talking about." Better let him have his
title or we may REALLY have to explain to the all knowing OZ (DMV
commisioner).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As far as all 3 wheelers being motorcycles, well
not in NC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a Trimuter I built in the early 80's that
listed as a "CUSTOM BUILD" (car) and only has three wheels.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>So it has a lot to do with the laws in effect at
the time and who/how the laws are interpreted.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then, there is a catagory for something that is
called just a "motorized conveyance for public streets".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm sure that only GOD knows what that is and how
you'd get a title for it. I'll just stay far far away from that, whatever it is,
and hope I never see one for fear of my eyes being burned from thier
sockets.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Later folks,</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=wrybread@gmail.com href="mailto:wrybread@gmail.com">Alec Bennett</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 13, 2012 1:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Silly Little Cars] 1996
GO-4 Van</DIV>
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<DIV>"Just keep plugging away", good advice. I should say that the people at
the DMV were great with me too. And this was San Francisco DMV, so they
definitely could have given me a lot less attention.<SPAN
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as you say, the battles weren't being fought in the DMV itself, they were with
some mysterious entity always spoken with defeat and awe in their voices named
"Sacramento"... They'd send each new bit of evidence off to "Sacramento" and
we'd wait 3 weeks for the answer. Of course it takes lots of fees to get
answers from this "Sacramento"...</SPAN></DIV>
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a funny sidenote is that I own two identical (1999) go-4's. You'd think
showing the other title clearly marked "motorcycle" would have sped things up,
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<DIV>Out of curiosity what state are you in?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It was a local inspector that pointed out
the statue for me that explains why I don't have to wear a helmet and
have a motorcycle endorsement on my drivers license. Has to do with not
sitting on a saddle, straddling a frame and/or engine and the fact it has no
handlebars for stearing. </FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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interesting, but doesn't explain why it's a motorcycle to begin with? Are all
three wheeled vehicles motorcycles? But if that's the case we wouldn't have
such hard battles proving that they're motorcycles?</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>A cop once told me that you don't need motorcycle licenses for these
things because if you did, being a metermaid would be skilled labor and they'd
have to pay them more. I love that story. </DIV>
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<DIV>Sent from my gizmo. </DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On May 13, 2012, at 8:22 AM, "Mike Warren" <<A
href="mailto:bugnut@windstream.net">bugnut@windstream.net</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, Jonny, it's staying with me for
awhile.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve, mirrors have no electrics. They were on
it when I got it. They were also used on mid 80's from Rangers, so any parts
store show have them. Usually show up a lot on Ebay too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And thanks to all for the kind
words.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As far as paint or wrap that may be awhile, but
I'm thinking red, white, and blue like and old mid 60's Mailster with all
the markings.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry for the long winded post that follows but
.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I should note that the local DMV folks were
very helpful and fought the battle more that I.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>They're the ones who had to explain to the
unknowning and didn't want to knows at the DMV head offices.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It was a local inspector that pointed out the
statue for me that explains why I don't have to wear a helmet and have a
motorcycle endorsement on my drivers license. Has to do with not
sitting on a saddle, straddling a frame and/or engine and the fact it has no
handlebars for stearing. They also help me get the original title that
had it listed as a truck. That's why it was parked 8 years ago. The state
went to plugging in all OBD-II (96 and above) cars and trucks for ommission
part of the yearly safety inspection. It didn't have a plug so it would
pass, so the college parked it. When I bought it at auction I was told it
didn't have a title. But being the stubborn SOB I am, I went to DMV to ask
why a vehicle that didn't have a title and was owned by the state
had an inspection sticker and registration card from 2002.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The lady at the license office ("Well sure it
had a title.") and called the DMV inspector office and they came out.
If it was inspected then it had to have a title. The battle has begun. The
next thing we (they) discovered was the DMV's own database had them (others
all over the state) listed as motorcycles and trucks both in the DMV
system. More head banging. "We had best just get a title first." said my new
best friends at the local inspector office. They went to work and saw to it
that the state issued a title without me having to post a bond since the
state was the original owner as they bought it new. That was part of the
problem, the MSO had the style listed a "POLICE". At the main office they
didn't have a clue and even said they were not sure I should be in pocession
of the thing to start with. Whole different battle and way to long for this
post.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Title came in with it listed as a truck, so it
still needed to be changed to motorcycle. Back to my friends at DMV. Out
they came , took picture of VIN plate, filled out report, called head office
and my newly titled GO-4 MOTORCYCLE was ready to be inspected and tagged.
Battle WON !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>But it worked out just fine, plus made some new
friends at DMV and have great "war stories" to tell.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just keep plugging away. And remember, some
folks with the DMV really do want to help and DO !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Later.</FONT></DIV>
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