<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Bread, what's a NEV? How much does the Aptera run? Thats pretty f-n cool!<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Alec Bennett <wrybread@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Silly Little Email List <silly_little_cars@lists.sillylittlecars.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:06:58 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Silly Little Cars] San Francisco tow for a Cushman?<br></font><br>I'm looking for something smaller, shorter range, less
practical. More of an "NEV". <br><br>Can't wait to see that car though, loooks amazing.<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Simon Barber <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:simon@superduper.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon@superduper.net">simon@superduper.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Yes - that's the one. I have a reservation for production no. 1541. I have a friend who is no. 53 on the list, and does not want it - if you want one early I can put you in touch with him.<br>
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Simon-<br>
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Is this the care you're considering?<br>
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I've also been thinking about getting something electric, since I now have a place to plug it in at night.<br>
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Simon Barber <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:simon@superduper.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon@superduper.net">simon@superduper.net</a> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:simon@superduper.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:simon@superduper.net">simon@superduper.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Hi Dan,<br>
<br>
Can you send me Jack's email or phone no - I'd like to check the<br>
source of his information. This would have big implications for<br>
things like the Aptera 3 wheel electric car I'm waiting for. (It<br>
would allow it to qualify for an electric vehicle rebate, but<br>
would require they manufacture and test it to auto standards -<br>
which they were avoiding).<br>
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Simon<br>
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Dan Das Mann wrote:<br>
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this conversation actually uncovers an important issue. as is<br>
turns out, starting the first of THIS year, all enclosed 3<br>
wheel vehicles are now classified as automobile rather than<br>
motorcycle. this is why we have had so many registration<br>
problems. as you may know, it is not possible to smog our<br>
little "cars" because they have no code in the computer to do<br>
this. they must be taken to the referee station to be given<br>
permanent smog exemption. after that you can do a regular reg.<br>
there are still some ways to get the motorcycle reg but<br>
ultimately the law has changed and it is really just a matter<br>
of time before they will make us do the change. my friend jack<br>
schroll spent a few days on the phone and finally cracked the<br>
code as to why we have been having so many problems. just<br>
though you all might want to know.<br>
- dan das mann<br>
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wrote:<br>
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The MC license thing may be the key to getting reasonable<br>
insurance. Definitely let us know how Cody's test goes!!! I<br>
acutally have a motorcycle license but it's English - Gieco<br>
specifically wanted a US one.<br>
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Simon<br>
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C y b e r sAM wrote:<br>
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my signing rep is no longer there. I signed up before AIG<br>
bought them so things could be different now, but I do get<br>
motorcylce towing as a service that is included with my<br>
$100+/year motorcycle policy. Cushmans have a good safety<br>
record believe it or not (according to a guy who worked for<br>
the Cushman Manufacturer for years). 21st did ask me if I<br>
had a motorcycle license, but it was my impression that<br>
i did<br>
not need it to sign up at the time. I happened to have a<br>
motorcycle license and they insure motorcycles, and you<br>
gotta<br>
believe that it is safer than a real motorcycle. I think<br>
that the tricky thing is getting motorcycle insurance<br>
without<br>
a motorcycle license. I can see how this might not<br>
jive on paper.<br>
<br>
Cody is going to be the first to try and take his<br>
motorcycle<br>
driving test on a cushman. That will be interesting if<br>
they<br>
let him.<br>
<br>
I do recommend getting your motorcycle license. I was<br>
at the<br>
DMV once and I knew I was going to be there a while waiting<br>
for my number to come up, so I took the written test while<br>
waiting. I read the book for about 6 minutes. They<br>
let you<br>
take it 3 times in the same visit, and the third time I<br>
passed. Then I borrowed a friend's motorcycle to do the<br>
driving test. It was a fun challenge. I have not rode a 2<br>
wheeled motorcycle since. I prefer three wheels and three<br>
cylinders.<br>
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sAM<br>
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Simon Barber wrote:<br>
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Insurance - who do you call at 21st century, and<br>
what do<br>
you say to them?<br>
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Simon<br>
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C y b e r sAM wrote:<br>
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21st century/AIG insurance policy also includes<br>
motorcycle towing. Alec, don't you have coverage<br>
through them? You referred me to them.<br>
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sAM<br>
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cyrus forootan wrote:<br>
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When my drive line went out on that cushman<br>
crawl<br>
awhile back, we used gravity (down little hill)<br>
with CC Rider Tow to get it in his truck.<br>
is that<br>
possible in your situation?<br>
<br>
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--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Alec Bennett<br>
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Subject: Re: [Silly Little Cars] San<br>
Francisco<br>
tow for a Cushman?<br>
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Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 6:10 PM<br>
So you called AAA and got a tow through<br>
them?<br>
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I thought didn't handle<br>
Cushman/Interceptors?<br>
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wrote:<br>
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That<br>
sucks Wry. I had to use a flatbed when my<br>
control arm<br>
snapped. AAA covered it.<br>
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[Silly Little Cars] San Francisco tow for a<br>
Cushman?<br>
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<br>
I just had my first major breakdown... Was<br>
driving up<br>
Bernal Hill, very steel section, hit<br>
the top<br>
and started<br>
getting a clunking noise. Pulled over,<br>
drive<br>
shaft still<br>
working. Drove a little farther to test<br>
and it<br>
was clunking<br>
about once every wheel revolution, I<br>
thought<br>
maybe the<br>
brakes were sticking. Then the drive train<br>
completely<br>
failed, no more engine reaching the rear<br>
wheels. I think its<br>
the differential. Was in a rush so had to<br>
leave the car<br>
there.<br>
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<br>
<br>
Anyway, wondering if anyone knows of a good<br>
tow in SF for a<br>
Cushman? I usually use CC Rider but they<br>
require me to drive<br>
up onto their ramp, which I can't do<br>
now. I'm<br>
thinking flatbed.<br>
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